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OMG, I’m gonna get Old and Die.

by John Aquila in

when it finally clicked,.

and you realized there was no 1914, there was no generation that would see the end of a wicked system, there was no paradise around the corner, .

what went through you mind?.

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I never wanted to die so wasn't I 'lucky' that my mum became a witness so I never would. Except we didn't believe in luck did we. Didn't we all feel so smug that we were the only people on the earth who were not going to die, although I never liked thinking about what we had to go through to get to that point; great tribulation, persecution, Armageddon, and everyone else on the planet being killed so that we could live! I was never happy about any of that.

I never wanted to get old and believed I never would. I left school at 15 got a job, didn't pay into a pension (would never need it) better to have the money then. I am now much older than I ever thought I would be and have believed for a number of years now that I am definitely going to die. I don't really know exactly when I came to that realisation because it took years of internal wrestling for me to come to terms that I wasn't 'in the truth' and that everything I had believed was false. I don't believe that I was blind, or stupid, none of us were. We were brainwashed, indoctrinated.

Yes I am going to die and there is nothing I can do about it. I am resigned to this, unlike a lot of witnesses I know who still believe they are not! I know a few who have categorically stated "I have no intention of dying", one said this to her grandson. I feel he will one day be disappointed.

I wonder is it better to believe you are going to die and accept it or believe you are not and have all your dreams dashed when you realise you are.

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JESUS COMING

by disillusioned 2 in

i'm confused.

reading the day's text for yesterday, they talk about jesus coming and that it is a future time after the great tribulation.

i thought they have always said he came in 1914 and earlier at other times (russell).. .

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I'm confused. Reading the day's text for yesterday, they talk about Jesus coming and that it is a future time after the great tribulation. I thought they have always said he came in 1914 and earlier at other times (Russell).

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es15 pp. 57-67 - Examining the Scriptures—2015

Tuesday, June 2

Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.—Matt. 24:46.

In the part of his prophecy that is recorded at Matthew 24:29–25:46, Jesus focuses primarily on what will happen during these last days and during the coming great tribulation. There, Jesus makes eight references to his “coming,” or arrival. Regarding the great tribulation, he states: “They will see the Son of man coming on the clouds.” “You do not know on what day your Lord iscoming.” “At an hour that you do not think to be it, the Son of man is coming.”And in his parable of the sheep and the goats, Jesus states: “The Son of manarrives in his glory.” (Matt. 24:30, 42, 44; 25:31) Each of these four references applies to Christ’s future coming as Judge. Indeed, a consideration of Jesus’ prophecy in its entirety makes it clear that each of the eight references to his coming applies to the future time of judgment during the great tribulation. w137/15 1:15, 18

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God's Spirit

by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

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what is god's spirit?

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i ask this of those who believe in god.

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What is God?

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WHY DO ONLY A FEW START TO QUESTION DOCTRINE CHANGES AND NOT EVERYONE?

by disillusioned 2 in

there are many on here who state specific changes in wt publications have caused them to start questioning (understandably you would think), and yet the majority don't.

why is it only a few individuals that do this?

curious as to what others think about this.

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There are many on here who state specific changes in WT publications have caused them to start questioning (understandably you would think), and yet the majority don't. Why is it only a few individuals that do this? Curious as to what others think about this. I find myself really frustrated that my family can't see what I saw years ago. If I hadn't questioned years ago I definitely would have now because there are so many changes now. They just can't see, even when I point things out to them.

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Tampa Bay Times: Jehovah's Witnesses still going door-to-door in a closed-door world

by AndersonsInfo in

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http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/workinglife/jehovahs-witnesses-still-going-door-to-door-in-a-closed-door-world/2231499.

st. petersburg like any group of spirited salesmen, this crew swaps stories about the big scores, those times when people couldn't wait to buy what they were selling..

"we were out in service on sept. 11," remembers power-suited jonathan burns, his colleagues nodding.

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Not any more she won't after they see the ice cream cartoon. She'll be persuaded to give the money to the org. No more slushies for Mya. Poor thing.

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What's the Worst Gossip You Heard About Why You were DF'ed, Faded or Left and Never Came Back? They say "I am gay!"

by PhilsWager2 in

your going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!

i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.

revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.

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My husband believes that anyone leaving does so because they can't live up to it not because they have stopped believing! He knows of course that I don't believe it but he can't come to terms with that. My mum and sisters believe it is because of my husband who has never been a good witness, they think he stumbled me. I don't know what anyone else thinks and don't really care.

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What is Your Brainwashing IQ ? Take the Quiz

by Finkelstein in

so how much do you understand about brainwashing, its application and effects ?

essentially lures people into its grasps and then brainwashes them for exploitation and manipulative purposes by using mental indoctrination techniques.. here's a quick quiz to take to answer some of these questions.

http://voicesfordignity.com/brainwashing-iq/.

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19 of 21. The creative one got me, can't remember which other one. I thought of my family as I considered each question.

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Is it possible to use this thread to compile watchtowers Armageddon illustrations

by jambon1 in

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i was informed today by a jw that the watchtower doesn't use images and propaganda to instil fear.

i would really like to see a compilation of all their armageddon illustrations.

maybe a thread or web page already exists that had this content.. the one i am really wanting is the most recent picture of the witnesses in the basement during the tribulation.. this will be a massive help so thank you..

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The Paradise Book picture has stayed in my memory all these years. My mum still has that book, I was looking at it a couple of days ago. I was two when that was published so I must have been very young when my mum got it and happily showed it to me!

I literally had nightmares about it, and for what?

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New WT video: Like taking money from a baby!

by WingCommander in

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just when you thought may's jw dot org video featuring wide-eyed cult lunatic gb lett guilting the masses into giving every last dime they have couldn't be topped, your children will now be fed a guilt-inducing cartoon in which they are guilted into giving every last cent they have to the wt cult.

the wt entitles this one, "give us your money!

even your children are to be shaken down!

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And the money keeps rolling in! Evita

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I asked where is the proof?

by disillusioned 2 in

arguing with my husband again, i asked where is the proof that jesus looked down on earth in 1919 and chose a small group of bible students in america apart from them saying it in their magazines.

also where is the proof that satan and his demons were cast down in 1914 just because first world war started.

neither of these things are in the bible only in their magazines.

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Eight days and counting. Since I asked the questions above my 'christian' husband has not spoken to me. I would love to know what's going on in his mind. I feel like he has personally disfellowshipped me! I am beginning to hate this religion.

Yesterday I went to my Uncle's funeral and in the pub later my brother-in-law (a witness) was getting into an argument with the vicar over religion, my mum (a witness) had to step in and stop them. Totally out of order using a funeral to try and preach to those who have different beliefs. He was probably counting the time!

He sounded so haughty. Really coming across that what you teach is wrong and we are right. He and his wife (my sister) didn't go to the church, wouldn't step into one. Turned up at the pub just to cause trouble. He left and my sister stayed with us. We were all quite embarrassed.